Plone 4.1 soft-released

[Eric Steele (esteele)]

It's taken so much longer than I'd intended, but Plone 4.1 final has been soft-released. Let's hope it goes off smoothly.

Point your buildouts to http://dist.plone.org/release/4.1-pending/versions.cfg and add http://dist.plone.org/release/4.1-pending/ to your find-links.

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On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Eric Steele <[hidden email]> wrote:

It's taken so much longer than I'd intended, but Plone 4.1 final has been soft-released. Let's hope it goes off smoothly.

Point your buildouts to http://dist.plone.org/release/4.1-pending/versions.cfg and add http://dist.plone.org/release/4.1-pending/ to your find-links.

Eric

Woohoo!  Thanks, Eric (et al!) for a fantastic release!

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[Jan Ulrich Hasecke-2]

On 13.07.11 01:45, Eric Steele wrote:
> It's taken so much longer than I'd intended, but Plone 4.1 final has been soft-released. Let's hope it goes off smoothly.
>
> Point your buildouts to http://dist.plone.org/release/4.1-pending/versions.cfg and add http://dist.plone.org/release/4.1-pending/ to your find-links.

Cool!

I get this error updating a 4.0 version:

Error: Couldn't find a distribution for 'docutils==0.7'.


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[David Glick (GW)]

On 7/12/11 11:48 PM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote:

> On 13.07.11 01:45, Eric Steele wrote:
>> It's taken so much longer than I'd intended, but Plone 4.1 final has been soft-released. Let's hope it goes off smoothly.
>>
>> Point your buildouts to http://dist.plone.org/release/4.1-pending/versions.cfg and add http://dist.plone.org/release/4.1-pending/ to your find-links.
> Cool!
>
> I get this error updating a 4.0 version:
>
> Error: Couldn't find a distribution for 'docutils==0.7'.
>

It is certainly there on PyPI. Make sure you are not using an
out-of-date pypi mirror in your buildout.
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On 13.07.11 08:58, David Glick wrote:
>> I get this error updating a 4.0 version:
>>
>> Error: Couldn't find a distribution for 'docutils==0.7'.
>>
> It is certainly there on PyPI. Make sure you are not using an
> out-of-date pypi mirror in your buildout.

Ah Ok. The index entry pointed to d and b.

What is the benefit of outdated mirrors?

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On 7/13/11 12:02 AM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote:

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> On 13.07.11 08:58, David Glick wrote:
>>> I get this error updating a 4.0 version:
>>>
>>> Error: Couldn't find a distribution for 'docutils==0.7'.
>>>
>> It is certainly there on PyPI. Make sure you are not using an
>> out-of-date pypi mirror in your buildout.
> Ah Ok. The index entry pointed to d and b.
>
> What is the benefit of outdated mirrors?

No benefit. They're broken I guess.


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[Harald Friessnegger-2]

upgrading our 4.0.7 site to 4.1-pending worked smooth.

two things had to be changed to make the instance start up after running
buildout:

A) import permissions.zcml in our addons as it's already stated in
http://plone.org/documentation/manual/upgrade-guide/version/upgrading-
plone-4.0-to-4.1/referencemanual-all-pages


B) setuphandler for versioning types had to be removed

the procedure explained in the docs
(http://plone.org/documentation/manual/developer-manual/archetypes/appendix-
practicals/enabling-versioning-on-your-custom-content-types/) does not work.

VERSIONING_ACTIONS, ADD_POLICIES, DEFAULT_POLICIES etc al are no longer
present in Products.CMFEditions.setuphandlers

i removed the setup step form my package since versioning my folderish types
using annotationstorage does now work anyway (see
http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/11887)


regards, harald


Eric Steele wrote:

> It's taken so much longer than I'd intended, but Plone 4.1 final has been
> soft-released. Let's hope it goes off smoothly.
>
> Point your buildouts to
> http://dist.plone.org/release/4.1-pending/versions.cfg and add
> http://dist.plone.org/release/4.1-pending/ to your find-links.
>
> Eric
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Eric Steele <[hidden email]> writes:

> It's taken so much longer than I'd intended, but Plone 4.1 final has
> been soft-released. Let's hope it goes off smoothly.
>
> Point your buildouts to
> http://dist.plone.org/release/4.1-pending/versions.cfg and add
> http://dist.plone.org/release/4.1-pending/ to your find-links.

Re-ran buildout, restarted instance, ran the upgrade all successfully.

Thanks Eric,
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[Eric Steele (esteele)]

On Jul 12, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Eric Steele wrote:
> It's taken so much longer than I'd intended, but Plone 4.1 final has been soft-released. Let's hope it goes off smoothly.
>
> Point your buildouts to http://dist.plone.org/release/4.1-pending/versions.cfg and add http://dist.plone.org/release/4.1-pending/ to your find-links.
>
> Eric

I've just updated the release to use plonetheme.classic to 1.1.1 to fix http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/12007, which prevented Classic from rendering at all.
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[Alan Runyan-3]

Please release plone.app.form trunk it has fix for Chameleon.

Everyone should be using Chameleon.  The performance increase
is substantial for nearly no work.  Free 20% performance increase
for free.  Please spread the word.

Oh and someone pls release plone.app.form so the final 4.1 will
work OOTB

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On 7/13/11 1:10 PM, Alan Runyan wrote:
> Please release plone.app.form trunk it has fix for Chameleon.
>
> Everyone should be using Chameleon.  The performance increase
> is substantial for nearly no work.  Free 20% performance increase
> for free.  Please spread the word.
>
> Oh and someone pls release plone.app.form so the final 4.1 will
> work OOTB
We have a process: if you need a release of a package, make sure it is
included in checkouts.cfg for the relevant plone-coredev buildout, and
we'll make sure it gets released before the next Plone release.  Please
follow this process or we're likely to lose track of what needs to be
released.

Re Chameleon...I thought it does not use RestrictedPython and so is not
suitable for cases where templates are being edited through the web. Has
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[Dylan Jay]

Hi,

We've just done a large site upgrade and noticed that a subset of the  
redirectiontools redirections have gone missing.
We're not sure if it's migration code related yet as we're still  
investigating. I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this?
We ran a linkchecker on the site before and after and got 105 extra  
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On 13/07/2011, at 9:45 AM, Eric Steele wrote:

> It's taken so much longer than I'd intended, but Plone 4.1 final has  
> been soft-released. Let's hope it goes off smoothly.
>
> Point your buildouts to http://dist.plone.org/release/4.1-pending/versions.cfg 
>  and add http://dist.plone.org/release/4.1-pending/ to your find-
> links.
>
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On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:18 AM, Dylan Jay <[hidden email]> wrote:
> We've just done a large site upgrade and noticed that a subset of the
> redirectiontools redirections have gone missing.
> We're not sure if it's migration code related yet as we're still
> investigating. I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this?
> We ran a linkchecker on the site before and after and got 105 extra
> broken links.

There's two things that could be related here:

- We migrated the UID index to a new type which won't allow duplicates
anymore. If you had duplicate UID assignments the upgrade will warn
you about them.
- We've rewritten the logic that apply the resolve_uid transformation
(converting such links to render as normal links using a path instead
of http://somehost/resolve_uid?uid=abc-def)

We didn't touch the redirection tools data structure at all.

If you compare the data structures, they should still be the same.
You'd have to look at some of the new broken links to find a pattern.

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[Laurence Rowe]

On 13 July 2011 13:00, Harald Friessnegger <[hidden email]> wrote:
> B) setuphandler for versioning types had to be removed
>
> the procedure explained in the docs
> (http://plone.org/documentation/manual/developer-manual/archetypes/appendix-
> practicals/enabling-versioning-on-your-custom-content-types/) does not work.
>
> VERSIONING_ACTIONS, ADD_POLICIES, DEFAULT_POLICIES etc al are no longer
> present in Products.CMFEditions.setuphandlers

There is now a generic setup import/export handler for that. It
probably still needs documenting in the upgrade guide.

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On 7/12/11 7:45 PM, Eric Steele wrote:
> It's taken so much longer than I'd intended, but Plone 4.1 final has been soft-released. Let's hope it goes off smoothly.
>
> Point your buildouts to http://dist.plone.org/release/4.1-pending/versions.cfg and add http://dist.plone.org/release/4.1-pending/ to your find-links.


Works for me.


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[Harald Friessnegger-2]

thanks for the hint laurence.

i added it to the upgrade documentation:

http://plone.org/documentation/manual/upgrade-guide/version/upgrading-
plone-4.0-to-4.1/updating-add-on-products-for-plone-4.1/use-generic-setup-
for-defining-versioning-policies

cheers, fRiSi

Laurence Rowe wrote:

> On 13 July 2011 13:00, Harald Friessnegger
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> B) setuphandler for versioning types had to be removed
>>
>> the procedure explained in the docs
>> (http://plone.org/documentation/manual/developer-
manual/archetypes/appendix-

>> practicals/enabling-versioning-on-your-custom-content-types/) does not
>> work.
>>
>> VERSIONING_ACTIONS, ADD_POLICIES, DEFAULT_POLICIES etc al are no longer
>> present in Products.CMFEditions.setuphandlers
>
> There is now a generic setup import/export handler for that. It
> probably still needs documenting in the upgrade guide.
>
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>
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On 18 July 2011 16:57, Harald Friessnegger <[hidden email]> wrote:
> thanks for the hint laurence.
>
> i added it to the upgrade documentation:
>
> http://plone.org/documentation/manual/upgrade-guide/version/upgrading-
> plone-4.0-to-4.1/updating-add-on-products-for-plone-4.1/use-generic-setup-
> for-defining-versioning-policies

Great! Thanks for doing that.

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[Dylan Jay]

On 14/07/2011, at 5:07 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:18 AM, Dylan Jay <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> We've just done a large site upgrade and noticed that a subset of the
>> redirectiontools redirections have gone missing.
>> We're not sure if it's migration code related yet as we're still
>> investigating. I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this?
>> We ran a linkchecker on the site before and after and got 105 extra
>> broken links.
>
> There's two things that could be related here:
>
> - We migrated the UID index to a new type which won't allow duplicates
> anymore. If you had duplicate UID assignments the upgrade will warn
> you about them.
> - We've rewritten the logic that apply the resolve_uid transformation
> (converting such links to render as normal links using a path instead
> of http://somehost/resolve_uid?uid=abc-def)
>
> We didn't touch the redirection tools data structure at all.
>
> If you compare the data structures, they should still be the same.
> You'd have to look at some of the new broken links to find a pattern.

It's weird. We did another test conversion and found no differences in  
the redirection table. It must have been something we did post upgrade  
but we're not sure what.
We did turn on UID links after the last upgrade where it wasn't turned  
on before. We'll continue to explore that as a source of the issue.
Thanks for your help.


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On 14/07/2011, at 5:07 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:18 AM, Dylan Jay <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> We've just done a large site upgrade and noticed that a subset of the
>> redirectiontools redirections have gone missing.
>> We're not sure if it's migration code related yet as we're still
>> investigating. I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this?
>> We ran a linkchecker on the site before and after and got 105 extra
>> broken links.
>
> There's two things that could be related here:
>
> - We migrated the UID index to a new type which won't allow duplicates
> anymore. If you had duplicate UID assignments the upgrade will warn
> you about them.
> - We've rewritten the logic that apply the resolve_uid transformation
> (converting such links to render as normal links using a path instead
> of http://somehost/resolve_uid?uid=abc-def)
>
> We didn't touch the redirection tools data structure at all.
>
> If you compare the data structures, they should still be the same.
> You'd have to look at some of the new broken links to find a pattern.

Slowly unravelling this problem and it appears to be neither of the  
above.

We have a bunch on relative urls in our content.
e.g. ../../documents/guidance/NSW_appendix_Compliance_Enforcement%20.pdf

In plone 3 this was left to the browser to resolve and that resulted  
in a link like
"/documents/guidance/NSW_appendix_Compliance_Enforcement%20.pdf" which  
in turn has a redirection associated with it

In plone 4 the cooked body has a absolute link to
"/rail/documents/guidance/NSW_appendix_Compliance_Enforcement%20.pdf"
This fails as there is no redirection for this link.

I'm not sure which code is to blame here but it looks at the moment  
like the transformation of relative urls in plone 4.1 is assuming the  
base is a folder not a page which seems like a wrong assumption.



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On 31/07/2011, at 11:54 AM, Dylan Jay wrote:

> On 14/07/2011, at 5:07 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:18 AM, Dylan Jay <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> We've just done a large site upgrade and noticed that a subset of  
>>> the
>>> redirectiontools redirections have gone missing.
>>> We're not sure if it's migration code related yet as we're still
>>> investigating. I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this?
>>> We ran a linkchecker on the site before and after and got 105 extra
>>> broken links.
>>
>> There's two things that could be related here:
>>
>> - We migrated the UID index to a new type which won't allow  
>> duplicates
>> anymore. If you had duplicate UID assignments the upgrade will warn
>> you about them.
>> - We've rewritten the logic that apply the resolve_uid transformation
>> (converting such links to render as normal links using a path instead
>> of http://somehost/resolve_uid?uid=abc-def)
>>
>> We didn't touch the redirection tools data structure at all.
>>
>> If you compare the data structures, they should still be the same.
>> You'd have to look at some of the new broken links to find a pattern.
>
> Slowly unravelling this problem and it appears to be neither of the  
> above.
>
> We have a bunch on relative urls in our content.
> e.g. ../../documents/guidance/NSW_appendix_Compliance_Enforcement
> %20.pdf
>
> In plone 3 this was left to the browser to resolve and that resulted  
> in a link like
> "/documents/guidance/NSW_appendix_Compliance_Enforcement%20.pdf"  
> which in turn has a redirection associated with it
>
> In plone 4 the cooked body has a absolute link to
> "/rail/documents/guidance/NSW_appendix_Compliance_Enforcement%20.pdf"
> This fails as there is no redirection for this link.
>
> I'm not sure which code is to blame here but it looks at the moment  
> like the transformation of relative urls in plone 4.1 is assuming  
> the base is a folder not a page which seems like a wrong assumption.

I've tracked down the code which is causing the issue and raised a  
bug. I'm not sure what a general solution would be however

https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/12078

We'll try our upgrade again with a modified version of  
plone.outputfilters, changing the relative url handling to assume the  
context is a page rather than a folder, and see if that breaks less  
links than it does now :).


>
>
>
>>
>> Hanno
>


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