Feedback on PLIP for Customisable Search
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Hi,
We've had a need lately for more customisable collections, collection portlets and search results in many of the projects we're doing. Instead of doing custom templates all the time I'd like to put some work into a system that allows for more TTW customisation of these listings built into the core. Drupal has a very flexible TTW listings capability would we should be aiming to match or beat. Also the the big advantage of TTW customisation is that if a themer can get Plone to expose the right information with good css tags then Diazo is the only skill you need to turn that into almost any design. A generic listing portlet can be turned into a carousel for instance. No template or python knowledge required. So I'd like some honest feedback on this proposal. I know it crosses over the work been done with improving search, contentlistings, collections already as well as plugins like formcriteria and eea.facetednavigation. For this reason I'm putting the proposal here first before as a formal PLIP. I'd like to hear what others think is the best solution to these problems. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HQcCVb9U4FOtNzTFBiA9EpeJOla6K1w_7zNFfmrYNfc/edit --- Dylan Jay Technical Solutions Manager PretaWeb: Multisite Performance Support P: +612 80819071 | M: +61421477460 | twitter.com/djay75 | linkedin.com/ in/djay75 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Plone-developers mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers |
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Hi,
No feedback? Anyone agree or disagree with the aims at least? 1. Allow the user to create specialised search forms in different locations in their site 1. Allow the user to customomize their global search page TTW without overriding a template 2. Make it easier to customize a search form by separating the form from the results listing 3. Allow users to create collections with listings that include any metadata from the catalog they choose 4. Allow listings to include suitable css classes so listings can be easily transformed by diazo themes. 5. reduce the need to override templates (TTW or otherwise) as overriding templates creates upgrade issues. Reduce the need for portlet or view plugins providing special listings. 6. Make Plone’s collections as flexible or more flexible than drupals listings > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HQcCVb9U4FOtNzTFBiA9EpeJOla6K1w_7zNFfmrYNfc/ed --- Dylan Jay Technical Solutions Manager PretaWeb: Multisite Performance Support P: +612 80819071 | M: +61421477460 | twitter.com/djay75 | linkedin.com/ in/djay75 On 27/04/2012, at 6:19 PM, Dylan Jay wrote: > Hi, > > We've had a need lately for more customisable collections, > collection portlets and search results in many of the projects we're > doing. Instead of doing custom templates all the time I'd like to > put some work into a system that allows for more TTW customisation > of these listings built into the core. Drupal has a very flexible > TTW listings capability would we should be aiming to match or beat. > Also the the big advantage of TTW customisation is that if a themer > can get Plone to expose the right information with good css tags > then Diazo is the only skill you need to turn that into almost any > design. A generic listing portlet can be turned into a carousel for > instance. No template or python knowledge required. > > So I'd like some honest feedback on this proposal. I know it crosses > over the work been done with improving search, contentlistings, > collections already as well as plugins like formcriteria and > eea.facetednavigation. For this reason I'm putting the proposal here > first before as a formal PLIP. I'd like to hear what others think is > the best solution to these problems. > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HQcCVb9U4FOtNzTFBiA9EpeJOla6K1w_7zNFfmrYNfc/edit > > --- > Dylan Jay > Technical Solutions Manager > PretaWeb: Multisite Performance Support > P: +612 80819071 | M: +61421477460 | twitter.com/djay75 | > linkedin.com/in/djay75 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Plone-developers mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers |
 
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David Glick (GW) |
Re: Feedback on PLIP for Customisable Search
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Yes, I think it's an interesting problem space where we can do more. I
haven't had a chance to consider the details of the proposal yet. On 4/30/12 11:24 PM, Dylan Jay wrote: > Hi, > > No feedback? > > Anyone agree or disagree with the aims at least? > > 1. Allow the user to create specialised search forms in different > locations in their site > 1. Allow the user to customomize their global search page TTW without > overriding a template > 2. Make it easier to customize a search form by separating the form > from the results listing > 3. Allow users to create collections with listings that include any > metadata from the catalog they choose > 4. Allow listings to include suitable css classes so listings can be > easily transformed by diazo themes. > 5. reduce the need to override templates (TTW or otherwise) as > overriding templates creates upgrade issues. Reduce the need for > portlet or view plugins providing special listings. > 6. Make Plone’s collections as flexible or more flexible than drupals > listings > >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HQcCVb9U4FOtNzTFBiA9EpeJOla6K1w_7zNFfmrYNfc/ed > > --- > Dylan Jay > Technical Solutions Manager > PretaWeb: Multisite Performance Support > P: +612 80819071 | M: +61421477460 | twitter.com/djay75 | linkedin.com/ > in/djay75 > > On 27/04/2012, at 6:19 PM, Dylan Jay wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> We've had a need lately for more customisable collections, >> collection portlets and search results in many of the projects we're >> doing. Instead of doing custom templates all the time I'd like to >> put some work into a system that allows for more TTW customisation >> of these listings built into the core. Drupal has a very flexible >> TTW listings capability would we should be aiming to match or beat. >> Also the the big advantage of TTW customisation is that if a themer >> can get Plone to expose the right information with good css tags >> then Diazo is the only skill you need to turn that into almost any >> design. A generic listing portlet can be turned into a carousel for >> instance. No template or python knowledge required. >> >> So I'd like some honest feedback on this proposal. I know it crosses >> over the work been done with improving search, contentlistings, >> collections already as well as plugins like formcriteria and >> eea.facetednavigation. For this reason I'm putting the proposal here >> first before as a formal PLIP. I'd like to hear what others think is >> the best solution to these problems. >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HQcCVb9U4FOtNzTFBiA9EpeJOla6K1w_7zNFfmrYNfc/edit >> >> --- >> Dylan Jay >> Technical Solutions Manager >> PretaWeb: Multisite Performance Support >> P: +612 80819071 | M: +61421477460 | twitter.com/djay75 | >> linkedin.com/in/djay75 >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Plone-developers mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers ---------- David Glick Web Developer [hidden email] 206.286.1235x32 GiveBIG is coming! Mark your calendar for May 2 and get ready to give big to Groundwire on this community-wide day of giving. http://www.seattlefoundation.org/npos/Pages/Groundwire.aspx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Plone-developers mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers |
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On 01/05/2012, at 4:27 PM, David Glick wrote: > Yes, I think it's an interesting problem space where we can do more. > I haven't had a chance to consider the details of the proposal yet. Cool. I'll look forward to your comments. I can summarise the approach so people can ponder on it: - replace the dedicated global search with a collection - turn a collection into a portlet manager (or at least on a specific display view so existing collection views work) - split the search form and the search results into two portlets, both of which can be configured to display more or less, and both of which can be replaced by other plugins. (we tried this out and it works well). It's yet another deco like proposal since we don't actually have deco. > > On 4/30/12 11:24 PM, Dylan Jay wrote: >> Hi, >> >> No feedback? >> >> Anyone agree or disagree with the aims at least? >> >> 1. Allow the user to create specialised search forms in different >> locations in their site >> 1. Allow the user to customomize their global search page TTW without >> overriding a template >> 2. Make it easier to customize a search form by separating the form >> from the results listing >> 3. Allow users to create collections with listings that include any >> metadata from the catalog they choose >> 4. Allow listings to include suitable css classes so listings can be >> easily transformed by diazo themes. >> 5. reduce the need to override templates (TTW or otherwise) as >> overriding templates creates upgrade issues. Reduce the need for >> portlet or view plugins providing special listings. >> 6. Make Plone’s collections as flexible or more flexible than drupals >> listings >> >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HQcCVb9U4FOtNzTFBiA9EpeJOla6K1w_7zNFfmrYNfc/ed >> >> --- >> Dylan Jay >> Technical Solutions Manager >> PretaWeb: Multisite Performance Support >> P: +612 80819071 | M: +61421477460 | twitter.com/djay75 | >> linkedin.com/ >> in/djay75 >> >> On 27/04/2012, at 6:19 PM, Dylan Jay wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> We've had a need lately for more customisable collections, >>> collection portlets and search results in many of the projects we're >>> doing. Instead of doing custom templates all the time I'd like to >>> put some work into a system that allows for more TTW customisation >>> of these listings built into the core. Drupal has a very flexible >>> TTW listings capability would we should be aiming to match or beat. >>> Also the the big advantage of TTW customisation is that if a themer >>> can get Plone to expose the right information with good css tags >>> then Diazo is the only skill you need to turn that into almost any >>> design. A generic listing portlet can be turned into a carousel for >>> instance. No template or python knowledge required. >>> >>> So I'd like some honest feedback on this proposal. I know it crosses >>> over the work been done with improving search, contentlistings, >>> collections already as well as plugins like formcriteria and >>> eea.facetednavigation. For this reason I'm putting the proposal here >>> first before as a formal PLIP. I'd like to hear what others think is >>> the best solution to these problems. >>> >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HQcCVb9U4FOtNzTFBiA9EpeJOla6K1w_7zNFfmrYNfc/edit >>> >>> --- >>> Dylan Jay >>> Technical Solutions Manager >>> PretaWeb: Multisite Performance Support >>> P: +612 80819071 | M: +61421477460 | twitter.com/djay75 | >>> linkedin.com/in/djay75 >>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Plone-developers mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers > > > > ---------- > David Glick > Web Developer > [hidden email] > 206.286.1235x32 > > GiveBIG is coming! Mark your calendar for May 2 and get ready to > give big to Groundwire > on this community-wide day of giving. > > http://www.seattlefoundation.org/npos/Pages/Groundwire.aspx > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Plone-developers mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers |
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Elizabeth Leddy-2 |
Re: Feedback on PLIP for Customisable Search
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On Apr 30, 2012, at 11:59 PM, Dylan Jay wrote: > > On 01/05/2012, at 4:27 PM, David Glick wrote: > >> Yes, I think it's an interesting problem space where we can do more. >> I haven't had a chance to consider the details of the proposal yet. > > Cool. I'll look forward to your comments. > > I can summarise the approach so people can ponder on it: > > - replace the dedicated global search with a collection > - turn a collection into a portlet manager (or at least on a specific > display view so existing collection views work) > - split the search form and the search results into two portlets, both > of which can be configured to display more or less, and both of which > can be replaced by other plugins. (we tried this out and it works well). > > It's yet another deco like proposal since we don't actually have deco. Sorry for not responding earlier - I swear I didn't see this! I'm pretty on the fence on this one, but maybe its because I don't have this use case and don't know any alternative. I just want to point out that many people use search plugins, and have customized the current way. I have one site on solr, and 2 with custom search backends. I know that this isn't the goal of these changes, but we need to make sure to keep these options compatible, if only by configuration. I know most of my users aren't savvy enough to handle more than one search. 2 cents. Liz > > >> >> On 4/30/12 11:24 PM, Dylan Jay wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> No feedback? >>> >>> Anyone agree or disagree with the aims at least? >>> >>> 1. Allow the user to create specialised search forms in different >>> locations in their site >>> 1. Allow the user to customomize their global search page TTW without >>> overriding a template >>> 2. Make it easier to customize a search form by separating the form >>> from the results listing >>> 3. Allow users to create collections with listings that include any >>> metadata from the catalog they choose >>> 4. Allow listings to include suitable css classes so listings can be >>> easily transformed by diazo themes. >>> 5. reduce the need to override templates (TTW or otherwise) as >>> overriding templates creates upgrade issues. Reduce the need for >>> portlet or view plugins providing special listings. >>> 6. Make Plone’s collections as flexible or more flexible than drupals >>> listings >>> >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HQcCVb9U4FOtNzTFBiA9EpeJOla6K1w_7zNFfmrYNfc/ed >>> >>> --- >>> Dylan Jay >>> Technical Solutions Manager >>> PretaWeb: Multisite Performance Support >>> P: +612 80819071 | M: +61421477460 | twitter.com/djay75 | >>> linkedin.com/ >>> in/djay75 >>> >>> On 27/04/2012, at 6:19 PM, Dylan Jay wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> We've had a need lately for more customisable collections, >>>> collection portlets and search results in many of the projects we're >>>> doing. Instead of doing custom templates all the time I'd like to >>>> put some work into a system that allows for more TTW customisation >>>> of these listings built into the core. Drupal has a very flexible >>>> TTW listings capability would we should be aiming to match or beat. >>>> Also the the big advantage of TTW customisation is that if a themer >>>> can get Plone to expose the right information with good css tags >>>> then Diazo is the only skill you need to turn that into almost any >>>> design. A generic listing portlet can be turned into a carousel for >>>> instance. No template or python knowledge required. >>>> >>>> So I'd like some honest feedback on this proposal. I know it crosses >>>> over the work been done with improving search, contentlistings, >>>> collections already as well as plugins like formcriteria and >>>> eea.facetednavigation. For this reason I'm putting the proposal here >>>> first before as a formal PLIP. I'd like to hear what others think is >>>> the best solution to these problems. >>>> >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HQcCVb9U4FOtNzTFBiA9EpeJOla6K1w_7zNFfmrYNfc/edit >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Dylan Jay >>>> Technical Solutions Manager >>>> PretaWeb: Multisite Performance Support >>>> P: +612 80819071 | M: +61421477460 | twitter.com/djay75 | >>>> linkedin.com/in/djay75 >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >>> Discussions >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >>> malware >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plone-developers mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >> >> >> >> ---------- >> David Glick >> Web Developer >> [hidden email] >> 206.286.1235x32 >> >> GiveBIG is coming! Mark your calendar for May 2 and get ready to >> give big to Groundwire >> on this community-wide day of giving. >> >> http://www.seattlefoundation.org/npos/Pages/Groundwire.aspx >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Plone-developers mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. 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On 02/05/2012, at 4:10 AM, Elizabeth Leddy wrote:
> > > On Apr 30, 2012, at 11:59 PM, Dylan Jay wrote: > >> >> On 01/05/2012, at 4:27 PM, David Glick wrote: >> >>> Yes, I think it's an interesting problem space where we can do more. >>> I haven't had a chance to consider the details of the proposal yet. >> >> Cool. I'll look forward to your comments. >> >> I can summarise the approach so people can ponder on it: >> >> - replace the dedicated global search with a collection >> - turn a collection into a portlet manager (or at least on a specific >> display view so existing collection views work) >> - split the search form and the search results into two portlets, >> both >> of which can be configured to display more or less, and both of which >> can be replaced by other plugins. (we tried this out and it works >> well). >> >> It's yet another deco like proposal since we don't actually have >> deco. > > Sorry for not responding earlier - I swear I didn't see this! > > I'm pretty on the fence on this one, but maybe its because I don't > have this use case and don't know any alternative. I just want to > point out that many It's true customising search is perhaps not that common. However the 2nd problem I was trying to solve was more configurable listing pages which is an issue I'm having more and more. For example a collection view that allows me to pull any data out of the catalog such as publication dates, paths etc. By replacing the listing view of collections with a portlet manager, the listing view then becomes a portlet. Since then portlets have their own configuration it means the UI for selecting what and how to display a collection is separated from collections itself, and that UI can be replaced by other plugins. btw, the alternative would be eea.facetednavigation in the core. > people use search plugins, and have customized the current way. I > have one site on solr, and 2 with custom search backends. I know > that this isn't the goal of these changes, but we need to make sure > to keep these options compatible, if only by configuration. I know > most of my users aren't savvy enough to handle more than one search. I haven't had such a usecase, but how you'd replace global search with another is either to replace the collection object in the base with an alternative implementation or replace the listing portlet embedded in the collection to an alternative portlet implementation. Both of these options are via explicit TTW changes rather than hacking core plone templates. I see that as a positive step forward as hacking core templates makes upgrades hard and can only be done by coders. > > 2 cents. > > Liz > >> >> >>> >>> On 4/30/12 11:24 PM, Dylan Jay wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> No feedback? >>>> >>>> Anyone agree or disagree with the aims at least? >>>> >>>> 1. Allow the user to create specialised search forms in different >>>> locations in their site >>>> 1. Allow the user to customomize their global search page TTW >>>> without >>>> overriding a template >>>> 2. Make it easier to customize a search form by separating the form >>>> from the results listing >>>> 3. Allow users to create collections with listings that include any >>>> metadata from the catalog they choose >>>> 4. Allow listings to include suitable css classes so listings can >>>> be >>>> easily transformed by diazo themes. >>>> 5. reduce the need to override templates (TTW or otherwise) as >>>> overriding templates creates upgrade issues. Reduce the need for >>>> portlet or view plugins providing special listings. >>>> 6. Make Plone’s collections as flexible or more flexible than >>>> drupals >>>> listings >>>> >>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HQcCVb9U4FOtNzTFBiA9EpeJOla6K1w_7zNFfmrYNfc/ed >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Dylan Jay >>>> Technical Solutions Manager >>>> PretaWeb: Multisite Performance Support >>>> P: +612 80819071 | M: +61421477460 | twitter.com/djay75 | >>>> linkedin.com/ >>>> in/djay75 >>>> >>>> On 27/04/2012, at 6:19 PM, Dylan Jay wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> We've had a need lately for more customisable collections, >>>>> collection portlets and search results in many of the projects >>>>> we're >>>>> doing. Instead of doing custom templates all the time I'd like to >>>>> put some work into a system that allows for more TTW customisation >>>>> of these listings built into the core. Drupal has a very flexible >>>>> TTW listings capability would we should be aiming to match or >>>>> beat. >>>>> Also the the big advantage of TTW customisation is that if a >>>>> themer >>>>> can get Plone to expose the right information with good css tags >>>>> then Diazo is the only skill you need to turn that into almost any >>>>> design. A generic listing portlet can be turned into a carousel >>>>> for >>>>> instance. No template or python knowledge required. >>>>> >>>>> So I'd like some honest feedback on this proposal. I know it >>>>> crosses >>>>> over the work been done with improving search, contentlistings, >>>>> collections already as well as plugins like formcriteria and >>>>> eea.facetednavigation. For this reason I'm putting the proposal >>>>> here >>>>> first before as a formal PLIP. I'd like to hear what others >>>>> think is >>>>> the best solution to these problems. >>>>> >>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HQcCVb9U4FOtNzTFBiA9EpeJOla6K1w_7zNFfmrYNfc/edit >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Dylan Jay >>>>> Technical Solutions Manager >>>>> PretaWeb: Multisite Performance Support >>>>> P: +612 80819071 | M: +61421477460 | twitter.com/djay75 | >>>>> linkedin.com/in/djay75 >>>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >>>> Discussions >>>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >>>> malware >>>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Plone-developers mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- >>> David Glick >>> Web Developer >>> [hidden email] >>> 206.286.1235x32 >>> >>> GiveBIG is coming! Mark your calendar for May 2 and get ready to >>> give big to Groundwire >>> on this community-wide day of giving. >>> >>> http://www.seattlefoundation.org/npos/Pages/Groundwire.aspx >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. >> Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in >> malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Plone-developers mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. 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Róman Joost |
Re: Feedback on PLIP for Customisable Search
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Hi Dylan,
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 04:59:10PM +1000, Dylan Jay wrote: > > On 01/05/2012, at 4:27 PM, David Glick wrote: > > > Yes, I think it's an interesting problem space where we can do more. > > I haven't had a chance to consider the details of the proposal yet. > > Cool. I'll look forward to your comments. > > I can summarise the approach so people can ponder on it: > > - replace the dedicated global search with a collection always ended up with a collection providing the content and customized the template. I think customizing how the content is rendered is needed most of the time. How it's acquired is usually met by the current infrastructure esp. with Collections which make manipulating search results quite easy. That approach turned out to be quite flexible so far. Cheers, -- Róman Joost *RECENT PROJECTS* www.bullsmasters.com.au www.pancreaticcancer.net.au www.allanlanger.com.au www.uonservices.org.au www.asiapacificforum.net Mooball IT = Internet 13 Rowland Street Coorparoo, Brisbane QLD 4151 mob: +61 (4) 1455 3212 skype: mooballdotcom Tel: +61 (7) 3843 0516 Fax: +61 (7) 3843 2316 http://www.mooball.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Plone-developers mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers |
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On 17/05/2012, at 9:34 AM, Róman Joost wrote: > Hi Dylan, > > On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 04:59:10PM +1000, Dylan Jay wrote: >> >> On 01/05/2012, at 4:27 PM, David Glick wrote: >> >>> Yes, I think it's an interesting problem space where we can do more. >>> I haven't had a chance to consider the details of the proposal yet. >> >> Cool. I'll look forward to your comments. >> >> I can summarise the approach so people can ponder on it: >> >> - replace the dedicated global search with a collection > I think that is a good idea. From my experience I can say, that I've > always ended up with a collection providing the content and customized > the template. I think customizing how the content is rendered is > needed > most of the time. How it's acquired is usually met by the current > infrastructure esp. with Collections which make manipulating search > results quite easy. That approach turned out to be quite flexible so > far. I've changed the proposal a bit. It's now for an enhanced collections tile or portlet which lets you configure how a row is displayed, e.g. which fields are displayed. It doesn't use templating for that but point and click. Then you can use diazo to get that to look however you want. The central idea is to not require knowledge of templating to achieve many different collection layouts such as gallery views or carousels. You just have to know diazo. The other advantage is it prevents template overrides from causing upgrade pain. Then later this can be used as the basis for combining with a search form tile/portlet to make search search customisable. So the customisable search is a 2nd step. > > Cheers, > -- > Róman Joost > > *RECENT PROJECTS* > www.bullsmasters.com.au > www.pancreaticcancer.net.au > www.allanlanger.com.au > www.uonservices.org.au > www.asiapacificforum.net > > Mooball IT = Internet > > 13 Rowland Street > Coorparoo, Brisbane QLD 4151 > > mob: +61 (4) 1455 3212 > skype: mooballdotcom > Tel: +61 (7) 3843 0516 > Fax: +61 (7) 3843 2316 > http://www.mooball.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Plone-developers mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers |
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